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Currently we use SAP's FI,CO,HR,MM,QM,PP & BW modules and are thinking about using SAP's PM module (which we already own) but is not configured. Is there any reason we should look into any other ERP softwares or stand alone softwares? If so, what would be the reason for not using SAP PM? Would Maximo be a better choice? (To be honest I do not know the major differences between the two.)

I've just completed a comparison exercise for a large company in the UK which compared several systems including SAP PM and other "best of breed" EAM systems. We selected SAP PM, primarily because the company already had it (but were not currently using it - like you I think?), and it met all the mandatory functionality requirements. I'm reluctant on a public forum to go into any more details than that, however please leave your email if you'd like to discuss further.

Thorton.Randy@gmail.com

If you already have SAP, just use the PM module.

I agree...but I need some additional points to why SAP's PM is better than the rest....because if it's not then we would be willing to pay more if the benefits outweigh the costs.

Randy,
It's not just a matter of cost. SAP actually can do just as well, if not better than Maximo at PM, which is surprising, because Maximo is touted as a "best of breed" stand alone software product and SAP is an ERP solution.
The integration of SAP is the driver in most cases to make the decision. Unless Maximo could do a lot more than SAP, it would be wasted time and effort interfacing your ERP system to an external CMM system.

There are more advanced functionalities in SAP PM such as Object link, Object Network, Timesheet which are not quite common in other CMMS.

It would be easier to integrate SAP PM to rest of SAP e.g accounting and human resource than an external CMMS. This can be appealing to top management because they can have the whole overview if they wish.

Anyway, did you pay for SAP PM when purchasing the SAP package?

There is a long paper in this forum by Terry which compares business application suit versus best of breed CMMS. You can search for it.

I am a new member here and not very familiar how to get desired artice. I am interested in getting this comparison. We are presently using Maximo but are moving to SAP PM. I want to be sure that this is a right decision. So I will appreciate if this comparison can be shared with me.
Dr Mukhtar

Dr. Hussain

What systems have you used for Accounting and HRM?

SAP PM is part of Logistics in SAP.

SAP is a complete business application suite so it's quite comprehensive by itself.

I'm new to this site but I see SAP is the topic. I was wondering if anyone out there had a resource for a good listing of transaction codes for SAPPM. I have a book, read it, I just need the cheet sheet as a reference. I've found no good source for this as of YET. We've just made SAP our CMMS of choice. Maximo was our current CMMS. I used Maximo for 15 years and the company never used it to its full potential. A choice our company made for reasons unknown to me? Maximo does have inventory, accounting, and PM ect. and can be used for complete plant operation.
Transitions between Maximo to SAP was not easy. If any company does go to SAPPM - do your homework. In my view every CMMS has its selling points...I liked the windows setup of Maximo - SAP is more imaged as an excel spead sheet, you have to learn transaction codes in SAP, Maximo is point and click. Reports in SAP are better because it links all plant operations together and some reports are ready made so you don't have to build them. SAP and Maximo does get slow depending on your load of use. SAP can be linked to multiple plants globally. I'm not sure of Maximos setup? If you like the windows style of Maximo you have to purchase this seperate for SAP as a front end. There are some good ones out there but the costs are always the killer for good tools. SAP has some features on this but my learning curve is still on the up swing. Right now SAP to me is not very user friendly, very time consuming. Its potential is top of the line only if the right training comes with it and I don't mean 4 employees coming back to train a plant. If the cost is worth the purchase I'd say give your employees the best training if you want the best data. short cuts will bite you down the road.

Not sure why you would need a transaction code cheat sheet but SAP does have transaction S_BCE_68001426 which lists all transactions executable by a user. You can download this to MSExcel to edit it down to those you find most useful. I ran the list for myself and I can execute 8,964 transactions in SAP. Hence my comment that I do not know how much use it will be.

If your SAP set-up has been done well by your IS department then they will have set-up customised menus which limit the transactions visible to a user to those appropriate for their job role. The user is also encouraged to use the favorites section of their menu to collect their most commonly used transactions. They can use drag and drop to do this.

I am located in Melbourne Australia. If you are located at one of Cryovac's Melbourne sites I would be happy to show you our SAP system.

Hello Randy,
If you already own SAP then stay with it.
The software is important to a degree. But I believe it will be the surrounding process/procedure and vision you identify which will truly create the system. At end of the day you should be able to optimize asset reliability/availability, streamline work force productivity/safety, and enhance cost management. And with your Core Team vision in place, you should have clear goals & objectives.
I have written an article published by Maintenance Technology, June 2010, Redrawing your CMMS (cover story). It does not mention any software name/brand.

http://www.mt-online.com/mtsec...ur-cmms-roadmap.html

David, Thanks for the info. sorry to say I'm not near your location. South Carolina is my main stay. the transaction listing will be reveiwed. I just want to understand and learn as much as I can and need for my job. I think SAP has advantages I'm not fully up to date with and I'm sure that the information will be useful somewhere down the road. PMW

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Originally posted by LogicalInnovator:
I've just completed a comparison exercise for a large company in the UK which compared several systems including SAP PM and other "best of breed" EAM systems. We selected SAP PM, primarily because the company already had it (but were not currently using it - like you I think?), and it met all the mandatory functionality requirements. I'm reluctant on a public forum to go into any more details than that, however please leave your email if you'd like to discuss further.

Hi,

We are in the process of assuring that SAP PM is the way to go, having all core modules already installed and in some plants already experience in SAP. Would it be possible to have access to your comparison exercise between SAP PM and maximo?

Thanks for your help.